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11 July 2009 @ 01:08 am
thoughts on TW episode 5 COE  

So…thoughts. Well. I was actually spoiled before the episode aired. I read the big honking spoiler before episode four…well…because. Couldn’t face that shit if I didn’t already know. And, the spoiler was about all of it. So, I was prepared.

It is so funny…I felt actual grief about episode four. Anger was the first reaction, and then resignation, even though I clung to this ridiculous hope that there would be some big reset that would “make things right”.   Then, I read this article which discussed the epicness of the whole series and how bringing Ianto back would cheapen his death, and found it hard not to agree. The article went on to say how, in some ways, the storyline here was better than the end of Battlestar Gallactica, which…yeah. I found the similarities. Easily.   Big moral dilemmas about what the fuck would you do in the face of this horror. That is what BSG was about—for an example: the human race is decimated, we have “x” amount of people left…so…abortion. Should it be legal? The president was pro-choice prior to this, but now? How do you draw the line there? That is the shit.   It is fucking scary, but it is fucking real.

This series? Was fucking real. Jesus.  My only quibble is that it didn’t feel Torchwood. It felt like a big sci fi event that featured Torchwood. Torchwood was a small ragtag group, working out of this literal hole in the ground that found solutions through duct tape and rubber bands and a group of extraordinary people who weren’t in it for the limelight, but because they either literally had no other option, and/or they felt that they were doing something right.  This was gone here. Team Torchwood literally didn’t have the time to ponder such things.   Lovers? Grandsons? The whole of the human race is at stake here. Great storytelling? Absolutely. Poignant, amazing performances? Yes! Torchwood? Hard to find amongst the weeds.

A bit should be said about the sacrifice of the grandson—I think this was very carefully played, actually. That we never knew of his existence before 5 days ago makes it, in a way, more palatable—which is probably not the right word. Horrific?  Beyond the telling. But softens the blow a bit that we never knew of his relationship with his daughter before this.

However, all of that being said, I was left with a strange feeling of optimism, actually. Jack, with his mad time travelling skillz (Which, ok…sorry. Just to check in, but wasn’t the wrist strap deactivated by the Doctor?) leaves the door wide open for a further series. Scenario: Jack—travelling with the Doctor, or just traveling full stop, gets a distress call from Earth he can’t ignore. Comes back. Gets back into the Torchwood of it. For several episodes. Starts to fall into the human routine again—and, actually starts something with someone (or, being fair, something).   Perfect time for return of a fan-beloved character. I feel with that particular ending that the writers were trying pretty hard not to write themselves completely into a corner, given the (very) likely fan reaction over this series.

So….I guess that is a bit of a mixed bag…but thems my initial thoughts.  

  
 
 
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pjgalepjgale on July 11th, 2009 05:55 am (UTC)
Watching it tonight and also couldn't face it without a few spoilers. Sounds interesting. I'll let you know my thoughts tomorrow!

(: PJ
The Cleaveragekel_reiley on July 11th, 2009 06:47 am (UTC)
(Which, ok…sorry. Just to check in, but wasn’t the wrist strap deactivated by the Doctor?)

he didn't use his teleport, he sent a signal to the ship and it transported him
or something
Adjoviadjovi on July 13th, 2009 02:16 am (UTC)
good point--right...i caught that later. i suspect somehow he'll get those skillz back, if the series goes on or he meets up with the doctor or something.
pjgalepjgale on July 11th, 2009 11:55 am (UTC)
Wow! Overall, I was impressed. I still think Ianto's death was not necessary. I loved the government machinations and how easily (only a few tears and sweaty brows!) they were prepared to round up and sacrifice their children.
Went from hating John Frobisher to feeling so sorry for him. Just a puppet. Easy to sacrifice.
The grandson was heartbreaking. I just wanted the poor bugger to run. Jack always gets to make the crappy decisions.

The scenes showing Gwen and Rhys running and frantically trying to protect the children was bloody brilliant.
I don't know if I'm up for S4.
Writers/creators of shows make a habit of killing off my favourite characters. Or putting them in coma's. Or giving them brain tumours. Or giving them amnesia. Or putting them in institutions for the criminally insane.
I think it's only safe for me to watch law enforcement procedurals where I don't really care about the characters!
My fandoms are shrinking!

(:(: PJ
Adjoviadjovi on July 13th, 2009 02:17 am (UTC)
i think that ianto's death was so gutting b/c it wasn't necessary...yeah...it is hard to get so invested in characters when you just lose them. :(
ares132006ares132006 on July 11th, 2009 01:21 pm (UTC)
Hi sweetie. Well!! Just finished watching Day 5. It was brilliant. Nail biting, breath-holding brilliant. I stayed unspoiled so we went into Day 5 not knowing how it was all going to be resolved. Had a clue about Clem and that frequency, but...Jack sacrificing his grandson - how could he not? He couldn't kill anyone else. now could he? - was terribly sad. No wonder he ran off into space, Stephen and Ianto gone in the space of a day. And he's feeling as guilty as sin.

The scenes with Gwen and Ianto's family and children was breath taking.

I, too, think the way this season finished was excellently worked. Goes to show that people will do anything to survive, even to the point of sacrificing others. Gwen's speech about the Doctor was awesome.

Yes, this finale is up there with NFA as far as I'm concerned.

My hope is that if TW gets the go ahead for a season 4 that Jack will come back and a new team will gather.

Adjoviadjovi on July 13th, 2009 02:18 am (UTC)
Yes, this finale is up there with NFA as far as I'm concerned.

word. absolutely. even in the uncertainty with what could happen in the future--very much in with nfa.
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